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russia-pdUkrainian vs Russian

To outsiders, a Ukraine person will look almost the same as a person from Russia. As Ukraine was a former part of the former USSR bloc (Socialist Republic of Soviet Union), this is expected, but to Russians and Ukrainians the differences will be as clear as the difference between Chinese and Thai food. Even though people from both independent countries share similar ethnicity, race and history, all countries have their unique traditions and cultures; so do these two. The first difference between the two countries is their national flag, and all the related emblems and anthems, as well as many other different things. Russia’s flag is a tricolor of white, blue and red, while Ukraine’s flag has yellow and blue colors.

Russia is the larger subset country of which Ukraine was once a part. There still exists a feeling among many people for the two countries to re-unite into the former glory of Mother Russia. They exist together in the same way as CIS today, or the Commonwealth of Independent States. Ultra-nationalistic militants, on one hand, want to re-unite Mother Russia to its former glory, while ultra-radical separatists want to break it further because of the torture they allegedly suffered during the post-war cold-war-era dictatorship period under USSR. Russia comparatively faces very few terrorist attacks compared to Ukraine. Ukraine is near to the western countries of central Europe, and if one wasn’t told that it was a part of the former USSR, one would think that it was an independent European country, like Greece and Italy, which are located in its vicinity.

The languages of both countries are very similar, and if you use any Russian language translation software, it will work for Ukrainian and vice versa. An easy way to differentiate the scripts would be to look for lots of instances of a letter that looks like an English ‘I’, with two dots over it (Ñ—) ‘“ that would be Ukrainian; if not, then it would be Russian. They are similar because both are Slavic languages, but they are both considered two different languages, and not two different dialects of the same language. One other major difference, is that in Ukrainian the ‘g’ sounds like an ‘h’. Both languages have descended from a common ancestor ‘“ ‘Proto-Eastern Slavic’, and they branched out from it around 1500 years ago.

Ukrainian has a lot of Polish influence, since it was a dominion of Poland for a long time. Ironically, the very first capital of Russia was Kiev, and was ruled by the Grand Prince of Kiev. Ukrainians refer to Vodka as ‘Gorilka’. Tray is pronounced as ‘pidnos’ in Ukrainian and ‘podnos’ in Russian. Just like in English, the way British English is different from American English (stronger intonation and force on the words), the Slavic languages are similar – Ukrainian is more like the British English.

Summary:

1) Ukrainian has stronger intonation than Russian.

2) Ukraine was a part of USSR/Russia, and is a much smaller country.

3) Ukraine’s flag is of totally different colors compared to Russia’s, which is not the case with the Australia/England flags.


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  1. Kiev was the capital of the Rus Empire not the country hundreds of years later to be known as Russia. The Rus Empire split into many states. Duchy of Novgrod would eventually grow to become the country of Russia. Poland and Lithuania were the 2 other new kingoms to split away, what was left of the Rus Empire became the Kingdom of Galicia with The Rus Emperor becoming king. Poland/Lithuania eventually defeated and anexed the kingdom of Galicia and thus began over 500 years of foriegn occupation. During the 1800′s the people of Galicia started to become called Ukrainians where formerly they were know as Ruthenian

  2. I find this sentence sort of strange:
    “To outsiders, a Ukraine person will look almost the same as a person from Russia.”

    Does that also mean American and British people look almost the same to outsiders, but insiders can tell by just looking?

    I lived in Kyiv for 7 years, and I can tell you that nationality is NOT differentiable by appearance, among these two groups, or even among other European people.

    • you can definitely differentiate between people from different European nations. But i agree with you 100% that the appearance of Russians and Ukrainians are identical.

      • Not at all. It’s not just our culture, but our physical characteristic. Americans wouldn’t understand this, because there are few public history books about Ukrainians, and most of it is all wrong anyways. Ask a Real Ukrainian… and they will tell you how Ukraine was the larger population, not Russia.
        Also, a pure blood Ukrainian should have an underlining olive complexion, because they were originally gypsy’s over hundreds of years ago, who were a mix of Italians and Russians. So their white, and green in skin tone. Another thing…many people in Ukraine call themselves Ukrainians because their families have lived there for a long time…but their probably not, because my grandfather “who is a pure blood”, told me most of them fled; like he did, when the Tsar took over. And because he still keeps in contact with friends from Ukraine, and they say so also.

        • Ukrainians did not come from gypsies or Italians at all! Romans and Greeks left records of their dealings with the Slavs of the Ukraine, where the Slavic race originated according to Greek and Roman Scholars and modern day genetics has confirmed what the Greeks and Romans have written. The Balkans speak slavic because of multiple invasions from modern day Ukraine. The yellow skin you speak of comes from the Greeks who colonized all shores around the Black Sea and were absorbed by the slavs over time, you can call me a liar but then why are there greek ruins in the Ukraine if I am? gypsie’s lmao

          • Mike: Southern slavs in the Balkans (which is pretty much everyone, expect albanians and greeks) originate from the Carpathian mountains and emigrated southwards. There was never a ‘ukrainian invasion’ of any kind, Bozhe moy/Hospode…

        • Russians and eastern – central Ukrainians are very close. There are many Ukrainians who live in Russia and intermarry with Russians and vice versa.

          Ukrainians have always played a major part in Russian history. Leonid Brezhnev was Ukrainian and ran the USSR.

          Nicolai Gogol, the famous Russian Ukrainian writer of the 19th century is equally revered by the Russians and Ukrainians.

          These two peoples share a lot of common history.

          Western Ukrainians are quite different and have little shared history with either the Eastern / Central Ukrainians or Russians.

          Incidentally, Russians do now own a monopoly on being “imperialist pigs”. All Western European countries have played this game and continue to do so whenever they can.

        • I don’t think anyone in the world including Russia or Ukraine 11o% pure. These people have mix with other races, and these two people have mixed with themselves that they are the same people. Both the vikings invaded these two countries, so not all are say “Ukrainian” I wouldn’t be surprise if there were many that had Germanic blood in them.

          No, you cannot tell these two a part. All Slavic people are related wheater they like to hear it or not, they all come from the same place, just travel to different parts of the world. All Asian people are related, because we all came from the same place at one time.

          A lot of Ukrainian speak Russian and versa versa. A lot Ukrainians I meet have told me. “Russians, Ukrainians same people.”

      • I found Russians to be slightly thinner and shorter than Ukrainians hence why Ukrainians were used as Grenadiers by the Austrians and Royal Guards by the Czar’s. The difference is only slight as Russians and Ukrainians have heavily inter married over the years

    • Unfortunately we are really very similar to russian, that’s coz some of ukrainians [bad, very bad)))] speak russian, mostly in the eastern Ukraine, maybe because of a great influence of the long being ‘UNDER’ ussr. And now older people, who rose and lived in ussr teach their children to speak ONLY russian. THAT’S A GREAT PROBLEM, THAT BREAKS OUR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDANCE FROM THE INSIDE. I’m from Lutsk (Volyn’ region, western Ukraine). I speak ukrainian but i also know russian very well (because we still have the SHADOW of ussr-alot of tv program’s, news papers are in russian). Our Town (920 years old) is older even than Moskow, but they (russians) still say they are our “elder brother”. We still have ukrainian language maybe because of the fact, that before the II WW western ukraine(my grandparents) was under Poland, and their goverment was much more loyal(allowed to save language and culture (not all the time))

      • Western Ukrainians have never had a history of independence. Known as Ruthenians, there were incorporated either into Austria-Hungary or Poland – Lithuania.

        Ukrainian language is strongly influenced by Polish. No surprises there as Polish authorities frowned on the Ukrainian language and culture.

        It was actually the eastern Ukrainian cossack community of Zaporozhie Sich that first established Ukrainian independence.

  3. Arent technically both the same ethnic. Yes, they may have slighty different languages and flags, but its like Native Americans. They have different tribes, some different languages, flags and beliefs, but they are all clearly native. Im just a little confused because ive heard from both sides of this issue that yes they are they same because they have the same backround and language, and then ive heard that no, they are not the at all the same because of cultures or such.

    • It’s a thing you can’t really describe they are different. If you live there for a long time or are Ukrainian. You will see the difference it’s something to do with the face type I can’t explain what it is that pushs us apart but that’s the thing I personally think that maybe 4000 years ago (maybe less) that they descended form different nations (maybe Ukrainians from up north, Russians from further east). The problem with this is that they have mixed up quite a lot because of USSR. But still if you find a pure Ukrainian (or something close) you will see same with Russians.

    • Russians have %50 of the same DNA as Ukrainians and may be the first tribe to leave ancient Ukraine but they mixed heavily with the ancient Finns and to some degree mongols. So as a race they’ve grown apart steadily over the centuries.

  4. The torture that Ukrainians suffered under communist rule was certainly not alleged, but did occur. There was a manmade famine in 1932-33 which killed millions of Ukrainians. Stalin’s goal was to ethnically cleanse all Ukrainians because he thought they were a threat to the Soviet Union’s prosperity. This is one of many things the Russians inflicted upon the Ukrainian people and is perhaps one of the well kept secrets today. You hear about genocides all the time, but rarely the one that happened in Ukraine nearly 80 years ago.

    Also, the larger territory of Russia over Ukraine has NOTHING to do with the languages they speak as it is largely irrelevant. Besides the strong majority of it, particularly Siberia is mostly worthless barren wasteland.

    There may be a Polish influence in Ukrainian culture, but certainly not the language. Ukrainian is older than Polish (or Russian for that matter) and next to Slovak is the closest language to old Slavonic, the root language from which most eastern European languages were derived from. While there are certainly similarities between Ukrainian and Russian, there are more differences. They both use the cyrillic alphabet, but phonetics are very different.

    In terms of appearance, your average Ukrainian is certainly not olive in tone as they are from northeastern Europe. Instead they have fair skin and generally light eyes and hair. Ukrainians were most definitely not gypsies. The gypsies are a group of nomadic people who traveled across Europe and mated with everyone, which is why they are dark in complexion. While they may have Ukrainian blood in them, they also have the blood of many other ethnicities in them and are certainly more than just a mix of “Italian and Russian”
    People living anywhere migrate anytime there is a drastic change of rule, not just in Ukraine. Okay, so the tsar took over, this doesn’t mean that every single Ukrainian living there moved and never came back. When the English took over Ireland, a great number of Irish still stayed and continued to live there until this day.

    Finally, Kiev was the capital of the Kievan Rus (modern day Ukraine and Belarus) or the Eastern Empire at the time. Moscow was nowhere near being established, and not even a village at the time. Rus is an old Norse word used by the Varangians, or Vikings that sailed eastward, hence the Kievan Rus means the lands around Kiev. Russia took this root word and came up with the name of their country today without any credit or gratification to the Scandinavians.

    • It has been suggested that the name Rus’ comes from one of two rivers in Ukraine, the Ros and Rusna, near Kiev and Pereyaslav.

      • The name Rus comes from the coast of Sweden where the royal family of the Rus empire originated from. The Greeks say that the name Slav comes from the river that ran through their homeland, in modern english that river is called Dnieper river

    • Russians are known for claiming other people’s history for centuries now, after the fall of Constantinople the Czar’s claimed to be the last remaining part of the Roman empire and last Roman Emperor, The 2 headed eagle on the Russian flag comes from the eastern Roman empire flag (you can easily find on the internet). The nation of Russia and all the land in it’s borders have never been any part of the Roman empire. The Greeks had to teach them how to read and write and gave them their alphabet, the Greeks even gave them their orthodox christian religion.

    • What a horrible way you use to refer to the Gypsies or Roma, as they prefer, since they did not come from Egypt but from India.

      First of all, their darker skin comes because of their Indian ancestry. You seem to think you are so much wiser than the poster, yet you actually show more ignorance and disrespect.

      “Mated with everyone”. The mate word is used for animals, you bigot. Who do you think you are to insult another ethnic group? You are just a person, like them! And for your information, Unless YOU “mate” with your own family, everyone is mixed and “mates” with everyone else. Good luck with your DNA and with the mental health of your line, if that is what you prefer. Racist! There are no “pure” races AND thank god for that!!!

  5. I’m Ukrainian and most Ukranians I know and myself all can just look at someone from eastern europe and tell were the person is from ( e.g Polish, Russian, Kazakhstanian) and so on some are harder like kazakhstan and uzbecistan mixing them up is pretty easy but polish ukranian and russian you can tell them apart straight away.

    sorry my grammar and spelling is bad its late and i dont want to correct it.

    • And what about the Ukrainians that live in Russia?

      You grossly overestimate the differences between peoples. People the world over have a lot more in common that their differences suggest.

      This racist picking on the differences is what allows the demagogues to exploit people and cause confrontations.

  6. this is such a bullshit article from a person who has no idea what he or she is talking about. its a shame to read to any decent Ukrainian. almost every word just borders on stereotypes and simple stupidity, i can’t even begin to comment on every lie mentioned here.

    • The person writing the article is most certainly Russian and he/she may not be trying to mislead anyone just repeating what they were taught in Russian schools. Every nation on the planet modifies their own history books for pride, if you want the truth study 3rd party history books that don’t have a national or cultural bias

  7. >>Russia comparatively faces very few terrorist attacks compared to Ukraine.
    LOLWUT? Russia:
    1995: Budyonnovsk (at least 140 deaths), 1999: series of explosions in apartment blocks (over 300 deaths) (coordinated by the FSB?), 2002: Nord-Ost siege (at least 170 deaths), 2004: Beslan school (over 380 deaths) etc. etc. etc.
    Ukraine was never exposed to the terrorist attacks.

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  9. some Ukrainians have mongolian blood because ukraine was taken over by mongolia first, then poland took some parts and then russia took it. That explains why my grandma looks a little like mongols. usually russians have slimmer faces and longer noses.

    • Are you kidding us? Unlike Muscovy, Ukraine is Mongols-free country since the middle of the 14th century. The current Russian territory was occupied by Golden Horde Mongols from the twelve thirties to beginning of the 16th century. But invaders went nowhere and even afterwards, Russia has annexed “slimmerface’s” territories of the Kazan Khanate, the Astrakhan Khanate, the Crimean Khanate etc. It’s simply ridiculous. Look at the map of the Eurasia!

    • Really funny: how comes that something lying east (Russia) gets occupied from the east later then something lying west (Ukraine)?
      And btw Sam is right – Ukraine has stopped paying tribute (giving money once X month to rare tribute collector) to Mongols one century before Moscowy & Co were freed from occupation (foreign presence). That makes a bit of difference…

  10. I think we are very similar, even to this day, it’s like Austria and Germany actually, or even closer. Ukrainian culture is very easily absorbed into Russia and unobstructed accepts it, and vice versa. Many Ukrainian words went to the Russian language in less than 20 years, and vice versa. Our cultures are different in fact. Present days Ukrainian culture it’s not Traditional Ukrainian culture, Traditional Ukrainian culture (without Polish, Carpathian influence…) – it’s Eastern, Central (including Kiev) and South Russian. it’s true Ukrainian culture! Romanian-Carpathian culture its Western Ukraine and this is not Ukraine. it’s hard to explain but you have to believe me.

    • Why shall anyone at all believe a person telling nonsense? Western Ukrainians are as much Ukrainians as Central, and unlike Easterners they have managed to save their culture, they kept the language alive, they did not forget our songs and our customs, and what’s the most important they love Ukraine and identify themselves with Ukraine.
      And FYI modern Ukrainian culture is mostly influenced by central Ukraine as it was 3-5 hundred years ago (take the dialect spoken on TV – it’s a Central Ukrainian one).

  11. Ukranians are gorgeous!
    also in general, stop calling folks dark skinned when therye nowhere near dark!
    white people come in many shades,nobody is pure white. Goodness
    the comments by ignorant folks are idiotic
    Some people feel self hate that they have to go around calling people dark. Just because someone isnt pork colored…doesnt make them dark

  12. Hi Folks,

    My heritage is in part Ukrainian. I love these discussions because I did not grow up anywhere near the Ukraine and it is good to hear what people say about each other, just to know the general mire of my cultural origins, and the ways in which people distract themselves in order to feel better about the day ahead.

    What I find useful about all of these comments, that they reveal that there is possibility to an authentic trace of the cultures, peoples, clans, that have swept through the beautiful territory of the Ukraine. As different ideas influenced different groups of people to do things like take over a territory in which they had no Indigenous origins.

    As a child of a colonizing family that was (fortunately) coaxed out the Ukraine, I find that somewhere down the line, judgements need to be dropped so that the simple truths can emerge. I use the word fortunately as those of my paternal family who remained in the Ukraine are all gone due to Stalin’s genocide of Ukrainian “bourgeois,” which I understand were essentially the clan members of the Ukraine who had ancestral claim to the farmlands.

    Every territory in the world has been colonized or touched by colonization and I believe that this idea of conquerer and conquered it comes from the ideas of separation and duality. However, I believe the good news is that most people are dropping the dualistic way of being, moving more into a ‘paradox’ paradigm, and are embracing a more loving way of being that is necessary under the difficult circumstances our environmental and resource issues are imposing.

    So, thank you all for providing me clues as to why some of my family is fair and pink skin toned, and why some of my family is dark dark dark and olive skin toned, and all of us in between. This discussion helps me feel connected to soo many different peoples, with incredible lineages, and their incredible stories.

    This all helps me connect to the strength of my variety of ancestors, all of whom helped shape me today.

    Thank you!

    One love!

    P.S.

    Homosexuals were created by God too – ridiculous Russians lay off the hate already!

    • Hello? Hello? This is planet Earth. You’re so damn sweet, I’m getting diabetes. DUH! Take your kumbaya to homoland…

  13. First of all, Ukraine is not a part of CIS. Ukraine is a founder-state of the CIS, however not a member-state because the Ukrainian Parliament (Verkhovna Rada) has signed the decision on the adoption of the CIS Charter and therefore cannot be treated as a member-state of the CIS. You can read more here http://www.info-news.com.ua/ukraine-and-the-cis

    About historical inaccuracy of this article: Kyivan Rus and Russia is not so similar as you believe. There was Kyivan Rus with its center in Kyiv, then it was Grand Duchy of Ruthenia, and later Ukraine. Here are two articles which may shed light on the history: 1) http://www.info-news.com.ua/1025th-anniversary-of-baptism-of-kyivan-rus 2)http://www.info-news.com.ua/mangnus-ducatus-rutheniae-successor-of-kyivan-rus

    Cheers.

  14. Correction to my comment above.

    First of all, Ukraine is not a part of CIS. Ukraine is a founder-state of the CIS, however not a member-state because the Ukrainian Parliament (Verkhovna Rada) has NEVER signed the decision on the adoption of the CIS Charter and therefore cannot be treated as a member-state of the CIS. You can read more here http://www.info-news.com.ua/ukraine-and-the-cis

    About historical inaccuracy of this article: Kyivan Rus and Russia is not so similar as you believe. There was Kyivan Rus with its center in Kyiv, then it was Grand Duchy of Ruthenia, and later Ukraine. Here are two articles which may shed light on the history: 1) http://www.info-news.com.ua/1025th-anniversary-of-baptism-of-kyivan-rus 2) http://www.info-news.com.ua/mangnus-ducatus-rutheniae-successor-of-kyivan-rus

    Cheers.

  15. West Ukrainians do not tolerate Russians much and I dont blame them. Imperialist pigs.

  16. ATTENTION If other facts on this site are of the same quality, then it is very dangerous to use these facts in real life!

  17. I am half ukranian ,my mother and grandparents migrated to sascatchewan .and settled in B.C Can, i never was told any storeys about theyre history and i now can see why.Even people from theyre
    own original decendants hate .!! I dont agree with any of the storeys told here ,like some others have stated here ,history comes from storeys told to them by what that person seen through theyre eyes and not a complete picture of all countrys interpretation of the resulting history. All in All millions of people always have to DIE from the real reason. …… HATE !!!!!! some things will never change no matter what color your skin is. its not the outside that should be judged its the person inside that matters, and again some things will never change ,as beauty is only in the eyes of the beholder, I hate this whole frkn world .because its getting worse instead of better, I live secluded from the outside world for that reason. I am hated for how i look no matter how nice i am to others .so therefore i fall into the same world of Hate . And a thought for anyone who wants to comment on my message ,our ancestors have good reason to break away from a controlling communist country, So we can still be controlled and monitored by paranoid psychotic political leaders watching us through our supposedly private computers.looking for possible terrorist threats. Hmmmm Maybe they can use that as a reason to Kill millions of more innocent people.

  18. Sorry.but its the most stupid article i have ever read!! Ukraine is a part of Russia???Ukraine is Kievan Rus.Moscow didbt even excist yet,when Kiew was powerful…its just a beggining.

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