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Sunni vs Ahmadi

Sunnis and Ahmadis are two sects of muslims.Though the two sects believe in Quran and Mohammed, the two sects are different in many respects, inluding their beliefs. Sunnis, also known as Ahl as-Sunnah or Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jama’h, are the largest denomination of the Islam community.

When compared to the Ahmadis, the Sunnis are considered to be more orthodox. One of the major differences that can be seen between the Sunni and Ahmadi is in the prophethood. Ahmedias do not believe that Mohammed is the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed of Qadian is the prophet who is supposed to come. This is a great violation of Islam, which considers Muhammed as the the last prophet. On the other hand, Sunnis believe in Prophet Mohammed.

While the Sunni sect has a long history, the Ahmadia movement was founded only in 1889. The Sunnis believe that Prophet Muhammed did not appoint any successor to lead the community before his death. After Mohammed’s death, a group of his prominent followers elected Abu Bakr Siddique (prophet’s father-in-law) as the first caliph.

The Ahmadia movement was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He claimed to be the promised Mahdi awaited by the Muslims and the Messiah of Christ. The Ahmadis believe in the revival and propogation of Islam.

Sunni is a word that is derived from Sunnah, which means teachings of Prohet Mohammed. This means that Sunni is a word that refers to the followers of Prophet Mohammed. Though Ahmadia was formed in the 19th century, the name was only adopted a decade later. Ghulam Ahmad in a manifesto of 1900 said that the name was not a reference to him but refered to Ahmad, another name of Prophet Mohammed.

Summary

1. Sunnis are the largest denomination of Islam community.

2. Ahmedias do not believe Mohammed as the last prophet. They believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed of Qadian is the prophet who is supposed to come. Sunnis believe in Prophet Mohammed.

3. When compared to the Ahmadias, the Sunnis are considered to be more orthodox.

4. While the Sunni sect has a long history, the Ahmadia movement was founded only in 1889.

5. The Ahmadia movement was founded by Mirza Ghulam Ahmad. He claimed to be the promised Mahdi awaited by the Muslims and the Messiah of Christ.

6. Sunni is a word that is derived from Sunnah, which means teachings of Prohet Mohammed. Though Ahmadia was formed in the 19th century, the name was only adopted a decade later.


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  1. Perhaps you can write an article about the Difference between Qadiani Ahmadis, whose mosques were attacked, and Lahori Ahmadis.

    If I can assist I will feel honoured

  2. can we eat with ahmedis

    • It is such a childish question. What two people eating together has to do with each others beleif. The question you should ask is: Am I evolved enough as human being to sit with anyone of any beleif and share a meal?

  3. Ahmadis or Qadiyanis do declare the Prophet Mohammad to be the last Prophet. They do not consider Mirza Ghulam Ahmad as a prophet of Allah, but consider him to be the Mahdi of which the Prophet told us about. Our Mullah’s have implanted so much hate in us regarding the Ahmadis / Qadiyans and have made us believe so many false things attributed to them. The best approach is to talk to an Ahmadi or a Qadiyani and ask him, instead of asking a Mullah of a different sect. And for those who are wondering, no, I am not an Ahmadi or a Qadiyani, but what I am is a tolerate muslim who tries to not hate anyone.

    For the brother who asked if we can eat with Qadiyanis, the answer is why not? Infact, you can even eat with a Mushrik, however, in a Mushrik’s case, you cannot eat / drink out of his food or drink, but nothing wrong in sitting down with a person of any faith and eating and drinking with them.

    Always remember, Islam is a religion of TOLERANCE and PEACE. A best thing to do, is to do what Christians do, they ask themselves,”What would Jesus do?” and then base their actions on their teachings of Jesus. I ask myself,” What would Prophet Mohammad do?”, I do not care what Maulana this or Maulana that says or thinks or feels, I simply think what would Prophet Mohammad have done, and then try to do that to the best of my ability.

    • I like your thniking…let us hope some day we all will evolve to become not just muslims but real human beings which is what Islam expect of us.

      • @Ex pakistani: You don’t become just a Muslim! Islam teaches you how to become a perfect human! It’s not one after another, lol!

    • MIRZA GHULAM AHMAD DIED ON HIS OWN POO, and if he was a REAL prophet, he’d be buried there, not 100 miles some place else where. All prophets where to be buried on the spot onm which they passed away, but the MIRZA MAN?!?!?!?!?! Pffffttttt!!!!!!!!! Forget him, he’s just too complicated!

    • I agree with you fully.

    • lets consider ghulam ahmed qadiani a “dumb ass”…..and an advice for you ”dont lie”……

      • you if you fucking dont kn da truth dan dnt say sumfing stupid lyk this fucking cunt go and die… i hope you burn in hell for saying this… next tym before u say sumthing think 100 timess……..

  4. The article above laid down the differences b/w Ahmedi and Sunnis but as a matter of fact Ahmedi or Qadiani are already declared unanimously by almost all the sects & beliefs of Muslims as “Non-Muslims” (means: they have no relation to Islam in terms of their belief).

    In a lot of Islamic States (Muslim Majority countries) Mr. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed has been declared as a false prophet because according to basic principles of Islam (which all Muslim sects believe) “Mohammad is the last Prophet/Messenger of God and there is no Prophet of any form after Mohammed”.

    Some Ahmedi writers do claim that Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is not prophet rather a “Mehdi” but once we study the literature in some detail it comes out that they are actually considering him as prophet (or somebody equivalent to it) which in any form is not acceptable to any Islamic sect.

    So, I disagree with the writer and inform the reader that Ahmedis or Qadianis are not Muslim sects. But the readers should read and check from different sources about the truth themselves.

    • Even if I accept what you say is true I still find it disgusting to know that in Pakistan Ahmadis are pursicuted for their belief and the stupid government has even changed the constitution. What about the rights of people living in pakistan? The religion and politics should not be mixed for the purpose of making some groups happy.

    • shut up ahmadis are muslims i dont care what you think your thinking is way off. why you guys such haters i mean serioulsy…

      • Assalamu Alaikum brother Haris,

        Your enthusiasm is obvious and your love for Islam Ahmadiyyat by the Grace of Allah will give you Jaza in the hereafter, but I would be remisced if I didn’t say that our example of Holy Prophet (saw) in treatment of others never abused verbally or by any other means brought harm to anyone, especially Muslims. Please do refrain from using language that is unbecoming of a Muslim and is not in line with our Master Prophet Muhammad (saw).

        It is wonderful to see that you have passion, just be sure that it isn’t misguided. May Allah bless us with his Mercy and Benevolence and may we all (mankind) be the recipients of his Good Graces.

        Jazak’Allah kher
        Wassalam
        Shoaib

  5. its really very nice to hear the difference between sunnis and ahmadiyans.
    But I would clarify a simple thing.
    Please do not count anyone as a muslim who does not believe that ” there is no other god rather than allah and mohammed (PBUH) as his last messenger”.
    There is no prophet after Mohammed (PBUH) and there will be not. !
    Never and ever. This is truth.
    Mohammed (PBUH) is the succsessor of Jesus christ ( PBUH).
    And Islam is the religion of love.It never support extremism.
    The people who are using the name of this religion for brutal and terror puposes and say as ” Jihad” ,
    then he is not a “muslim”. He will not be counted as a muslim at all.

  6. Assalamo Alaikum,

    It confuses me that all the other sects of Islam (non Ahmadis) or the “Muslim Majority” can get together to denounce a small group but can’t get together for anything else. Why is that?

    What is the need for persecution, killings, destruction of mosques and such hatred of such a small group. Is this what our Holy Prophet (saw) would do or condone!

    Does this “Muslim Majority” read the Quran, where it says that there is no compulsion in religion, surely right is distinct from wrong. Or to be always just.

    Where is this “Muslim Majority” when innocent women are being stoned to death or discarded like a piece of property. Where is this “Muslim Majority” when muslim leaders take all the money from their countries and do not give it to the poor. Where is this “Muslim Majority” that allows an also small group of muslims to teach hate or to kill themeselves whenever they are in public place. I can go on but you get my point!

    There are 73 sects in Islam and only one is paradise bound.

    Peace

    • Noooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!! Qadiani places of worship are not mosques! NEVER!!!!!!!!! Only temples!!!!!!!!

      • Dear Zahraa:

        Assalamu Alaikum

        I am an Ahmadi Muslim, and just want to clarify that even a temple in which Allahs name is invoked and oft-remembered is no different then a mosque as they are both places of worship. Your raised tone displayed by your use of multiple “O’s” at the end of your “No” declares that you are caught up with trying to trademark Islamic terminology. It is a new trend that has raised its head in the Muslim Umma recently and it should be remembered that NO Muslim has any copyrights on the words used by Allah except Allah.

        You may call our mosques temples, however the purpose of my response was only to bring to your attention that Allah and his message can not be copyrighted or trademarked. He has given testimony that he alone will guard his message (The Quran) and I assure you that He is not in need of such hostile actions committed in His Name.

        Jazak’Allah kher
        Wassalam
        Shooab

        • what a nice way to trap people!!!!! i must appreciate that but sorry to say Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani was a pig funded by english to devide muslims and create tensions to save their ass in the sub-continent. At present millions of dollars are spent on their TV channels and books by europeans……so who the idiot thinks they are saving or spreading islam. Do europeans really like funding for islamic movements??? At least i wont buy this shit story.

      • I hope you burn in helll after saying this…. and i hpe that the lighting hits ur head and you die….

  7. if u can eat with a mushrik or christian,then,there is no harm in eating with them.allah says:‎وطعام الذين أوتو الكتاب حل لكم و طعامكم حل لهم

  8. Salam brothers and sisters,

    I am an Ahmadi Muslim and would like to clarify some things presumed by the author of the article.

    1- we have absolute belief and no ambiguity as to the place of our Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw) as the Khatamun Nabiyyein (seal of the prophets)

    2- we do consider Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian as the Imam Mahdi, as well as the awaited Messiah (Isa Ibn Maryam (as) in the metaphorical sense))

    3- He is also valued as having attained Prophethood, albeit the Prophethood is not distinct and apart from Prophet Muhammad (saw), rather it is a reflection of that Prophethood, which has only the purpose for reviving the Muslims’ faith as taught and practiced by the Holy Prophet (saw) himself and bring the Iman back from Plaedies.

    4- The belief in a prophet coming after the holiest of all Prophets (saw) is not a belief unique to the Ahmadiyya Jam’at, it is a belief penetrating even the most devout Sunni clerics and scholars as they too are all awaiting the return of Isa (as), and when asked whether he will be a prophet upon return, all are in agreement that he will have the status of a Prophet.

    5- so our beliefs aren’t a derision from Sunni beliefs, the question is merely one of identity. since it is our belief that Hazrat Isa (as) died a natural death LONG AFTER his survival from the attempted crucifixion, the question of his return isn’t possible in literal terms, so we have accepted the return in metaphorical terms after clear manifest signs, in the person of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian.

    7- All the way from the times of Holy Prophet Muhammad (saw), the Muslims have waited for the head of the 14th century so that He (Isa as) would return, but the Muslims of today devise different techniques to obscure the faith of the layman Muslims just to answer the question of the return and why He hasn’t returned. We believe he has in the person of Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian!

    I will by the grace and Leave of Allah end my clarifications here, although if anyone has any further inquiries, please do not hesitate to email me at sa9135@gmail.com and with Allah’s help, I will do the best I can to answer your questions as well as clarify any other misconceptions about our beliefs in Khatamun Nabiyyein, Isa (as), and all other necessary and relevant questions.

    I invite the reader to visit askislam.org and alislam.org as an introduction to Ahmadiyyat!

    May Allah out of infinite Mercy guide us all and bless us with his infinite Bounties!

    Jazakallau kher
    Assalmu Aleiykum Warahmat’ullahi wa barakatuhu

    Your brother,
    Shoaib Abaidullah

    • i agree with you abdullah

    • Well, i have certain reservations on the clarification you have given, first who decides if Mirza was the promised Masiah??? what were the virtues he had what was so speacial in him to declare himself as the Imam Mehdi and Esah (As)?
      And what do you mean by a reflection of Muhammad (PBUH) what is reflective prophethood is their a concept of this in Islam did our prophet Muhammad (saw) say anything about reflective prophethood? does any hadis to this is present today? or does the Quran state anything of this sort or even give a glimpse of this theory.

      What i have heard and read about ahmadis and qadinais it has helped me understand one thing that your teachers / preachers and playing with words and trying to define the quran its ayats and hadis in the way you want to, in simple words it is an eye wash comeon who can belive the theory of Hazrat Esan (AS) being burried in kashmir and his tomb is still there can you give us a exact address of that place so that all readers can google it or atleast visit it.

      By the grace of Allah Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) was and will be the last prophet of God and GOD is one, whereas Mirza Sb delcared that all goodness of prophets who came from God has been put in him and this is present by the way in his writings and in simple words this amounts to being supreme of all prophets toba astaghfirullah, then he declares of ataining supremecy by being taken to heavens by Allah and i dont even want to write what he says he did there any reader can search and read his writings.

      My conclusion you can follow your beliefs but Islam comes with reaserch and reading so read and you will find the light.

      To conclude i dont agree that Mirza was a prophet i dont agree he was even a saint, i dont agree he had any alamai roya things going i dont agree with his teachings i dont agree with his followers and infact think that they are the worst people of all who have damaged Islam, and can be compared to the worst people like Hasan Bin Sabah its all history.

      All a muslim should believe in is that Muhammad Mustafa (SAW) was the last prophet of Allah and there is no Prophet to come after him, and Allah is one and this is not the concept of masjid ka mullah this is the true concept of Islam may Allah grant us all the wisdom to search research and read the Islamic History and try understand and differentiate between true Islam and people like Mirza who have been able to penetrate the minds of peopel through their poetry and power of apeech and are the bigest fitnas of all time are two Mirza and Hassan Bin Sabah

  9. I Need ur HELP.

    • Assalamu Aleykum brother/sister,

      I do not know to whom you were referring when you said that you need help, however, do not feel helpless! While it is not in my power to help you, you are a creation like me, of Allah and He is the only helper you need.

      Alayi Sallahu Bikaafin A’Abdahu
      Is Allah not sufficient for his servant.

      Is this brother Uzer Zari?

      Wassalam
      Shoaib Abaidullah

  10. Ahmadiyyah is the genuine Ahli Sunnah Wal Jamaah.

    • If you are part of prophet muhammad islam then why create sects and call your self ahmedyya. Call ur self muslim and follow islam. U will not be asked about mirza in your grave but will be asked about muhammad saw. Bro use ur head and don’t create divisions and sects in isalam. May Allah help u .

      • Assalamu Aleyikum brother faz,

        While I respect your opinion regarding the creation of sects as being counter intuitive, I must rectify your view regarding this matter. This is not Ahmadiyya creating a sect in Islam, it was the prophecy of our beloved Prophet Muhammad (saw) which predicted this would happen to His Ummah. He likened his Ummah to the Jewish Ummah which also became divided into many sects. When his companions asked, how will we recognize then, the one true sect, or people, Prophet Muhammad (saw), instead of going into the differences of details and aqeedah, or advising that you should make some reasearch on such and such issues, gave an answer which stands testimony to the blessings which Allah bestowed upon His mind giving him the ability to determine and explain all matters with such ease.

        His answer to this question of utmost importance was, they will be in the state that you find me and my companions. He likened these people as being so comparable to himself that He said, they will be like the left shoe as me and my companions are the right shoe of the same pair. Instead of going into details, His answer is one that can be accepted and recognized even by the layman Muslim who is not well versed in the belief matters of Islam. Now I shall attempt to point out the glaring similarities which we can look for to see which of the sects of Islam are following in his footsteps today.

        Firstly, let us look at how Prophet (saw) and his companions were treated. These are historical facts as well as claims vouchsafed in the Quran and they are not disputed.
        1- they were forbidden from calling themselves Muslims
        2- they were not permitted to erect mosques and the ones that were erected we’re torn down or closed
        3- they were not permitted to recite adhan (call to prayers)
        4- they were not permitted to say Salam, even to each other in public
        5- they were not permitted to declare shahada( la ilaha illallah)
        6- they were forced to migrate and leave their homelands
        7- they were heavily persecuted simply for their faith in Allah
        8- they were forced to recant their beliefs (although they didn’t)
        9- they were prevented from performing Hajj
        10- they were mocked and made fun of simply for their beliefs

        Etc. if we look at the entire history of the Muslim Ummah, no single sect has experienced this type of persecution and imprisonment for their beliefs except the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama’at. There exist tensions between the other sects, but not a single sect is persecuted by all 72 sects in the exact same way as the Prophet Muhammad (saw) and his companions were except Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama’at.

        Aside from this condition, which for the seeker of truth would be sufficient, let us now look at the body of work the Prophet Muhammad (saw) accrued during his ministry, and compare whether that condition also is applicable to any other sect except Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama’at.

        His (saw) mercy toward humanity and his service to the individual is unparalleled by even other Prophets of Allah and finds no equal. His drive to work by the grace of Allah to improve the condition of the individual by subjugating his heart, mind, spirit, and soul without force or retalliation is also testimony to his truthfulness. Nowhere is his entire lifetime did he ever force, manipulate or deceive people with His message. He sent out his couriers and companions to go to the nations adjacent to Mecca and Medina and invite them to Islam. His message by the grace of Allah was foretold to him that it would spread and reach the corners of the earth. However, as history tells us, that did not occur during his lifetime. Allah had always known that the time the victory of Islam was to occur would occur at the time of the modern day printing presses and modern forms of communication.

        If a seeker of truth discovers that MTA (Muslim Television Ahmadiyya) was the first 24 hour channel which give da’wa to all mankind, all day, everyday, that seeker of truth might be surprised. It is this Jama’at which by Allahs grace, even being humble in number, was able to start this channel with our donations and Chanda. Where were the wealthy Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia? All the wealth that is is their hands, yet no Muslim country was able to start this form of communication and it is only by Allahs grace that Jama’at Ahmadiyya was blessed with this opportunity. Review of Religions is the oldest Muslim magazine started in 1902. Where were these “Muslim” people?

        It should be remembered by the reader that one who accepts a prophet raised by Allah does not do so by walking on flowers. He/she must give great sacrifices of all kinds, life, liberty, financial, as well as family relations to be purified by Allah. This has always been the sunnah of Allah to make known to the rest of humankind their true virtues by way of this crossing over burning hot coal and still accepting the truth when it is made clear for them, and not yielding to outside side forces which have always served the purpose of taking man away from Ilahi.

        To this day, Ahmadi Muslims are imprisoned for committing the very same acts which Prophet Muhammad (saw) and his companions were imprisoned for. Ahmadi Muslims to this day give their lives for the same cause which Prophet Muhammad’s companions gave their lives for. Ahmadi Muslims to this day give great sacrifices financially as well as with their time for the same cause which Hazrat Abu Bakr (ra) became famous for when he brought his wealth and presented it to Prophet Muhammad (saw) simply for the spreading of the message and the cause. Jama’at Ahmadiyya isn’t gaining success all over the world despite all the opposition which the Ulema and their followers today burden Ahmadi Muslims with, for no reason. We are blessed by Allah with opportunities to give sacrifices for the spread of that same message which was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (saw).

        This idea of calling oneself simply “Muslim” and not associating with a particular sect is a fairly new idea which has become popularized by scholars like brother Naeem, zakir Naik, etc. it is catchy and people think that if they do this simply, their Iman (faith) will be saved. I assure you, this couldn’t be farther from the truth. The people chosen by Allah, as I stated earlier, must walk through fire, giving great sacrifices, accepting the tormet of the disbelievers, like Kuffare Mecca before they are purified by Allah and become his chosen servants. Sitting back and calling yourself Muslim does you, nor Islam any good.

        If you should have any further inquiries about Jama’at Ahmadiyya, please don’t hesitate to visit alislam.org, askislam.org or if you just want more information about our aqeedah, instead of hearing it from your ulema, please visit YouTube and enter “question answer by Mirza Tahir Ahmad” and you will find all sorts of videos which answer all the allegations your ulema have claimed as well as faith matters.

        Jazak’Allah kher
        Wassalam
        Shoaib Abaidullah
        Sa9135@gmail.com

        • Bro after all that u still call ur self a sect. If u read quran we are not sunni or shia or ahmedyya but just muslim. You can not fight without knowledge and knowledge come from reading quran and understanding the book of Allah. I don’t mean to offend u but u are making a big mistake. May Allah guide us all. Its a duty of every muslim to search for knowledge. My problem is not what u do but when u call youself ahmedyya instead of muslim. Remember 3 questain in grave. Allah bless us and guide us all

          • thank you brother/sister you are rite….. these kind of people are called true muslims. people like u……

          • Brother faz,
            I humbly submit my reasoning for calling myself Ahmadi Muslim. Remember, it is the Prophet (saw) of Allah, who gave mankind glad tidings of a Jama’at who would once again bring back Islam to this world, not just in name and spirit, but that this prophecied Jama’at would be the second manifestation of the pristine teachings of Islam as revealed by Allah. So, why would I, as a true believer of Khataman Nabiyyeen, seek out any other label than the best label chosen by Him? It is a distinct honor that Allah has afforded those who join this Jama’at by the 100 folds, why should I shy away from declaring it?
            Perhaps your disapproval of this practice is based on some misinformation. We declare ourselves as Muslims. Only when our opponents raise the issue of sect do we clarify and make the distinction so that our brothers and sisters aren’t mislead by our not declaring this difference. As far as the 3 questions which will be asked, to this question my answer would be Muslim, as Allah would already be aware of the distinction because it was His most beloved servant who first chose to make this difference prominent so that All, Muslim and non-Muslims, would know it.

            Jazak’Allah kher
            Wassalam
            Shoaib

      • than y do you calll urelf sunnii… y dont u fucking jut call urself muslims and follow islam??????

  11. can’t a sunni and ahmadiyan get married? :S
    if the boy get into sunni sect, is this possible?
    Is eating and drinking allowed in a ahmadiyaan house as per as the quran?
    :x

    • Ahmedis…..they are non-muslims and be treated like mushrik(non-believers)!!!!! no marriage with them and they must not be buried in muslim grave yards.

      • saale kuuttteee who said that we are not muslimmmsss… go do some research then open ur stinging mouth u bloooddyyyy sunni…. now i c the diifence bettweenn suniis and ahmadiisss…. sunniiesss are dickheads and ahmadiiisss are the best and true muslim… u go and burn in helll.

        • Dear muskaan,
          I kindly appreciate your vigor however your language is quite inappropriate for anyone who claims to be a servant of Allah. If you are Ahmadi Muslim, please refrain from conveying your message with lude and spiteful converse.

          Jazak’Allah kher
          Waslaam
          Shoaib

          • Dear Shoaib,
            Since, you seem to know so much about Our religion.I would like to ask you something.Would it be wrong for a Muslim girl to love a Christian guy?
            I’m divorced and there is this guy I met not too long ago and I love him.
            Would it be wrong, If he and I got married?

          • Mr.Shoaib.
            I couldn’t agree more.
            But have I committedd a sin by falling in love with a Christian man?

  12. Dear Anchal and Chandini;

    If you are two different people, then two birds with one stone. For many reasons, obvious and clear which are laid down in the Quran, it is not permissible for believing parents to give their daughters to non-believers.
    “And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al‑Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire, but Allaah invites (you) to Paradise and forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember”.
    [al-Baqarah 2:221]

    If we believe that the Quran is the unadulterated speech of our Allah, then we must keep in mind that his wisdom extends far far beyond our understanding. In His speech, he tells us that the man has been given the responsibility over his kin (wife, children, etc. ). One of the wisdoms behind why this marriage is not permissible might be that while a Muslim man may not rescind his belief in Allah, even if he is married to a woman of the Book, a believing Muslim woman might be compelled or forced to recant her beliefs. Her children might follow the religion of their fathers, as has been customary throughout the history of religion and mankind. In fact, the Quran also alludes to this whenever it speaks on the issue of mushriks, who in the Quran are given advice that on the day of Judgment, their defense against punishment for disbelieving simply because they followed the religion of their fathers will not avail them.

    Of course after all is said and done, we can either accept or reject His teachings in the Quran. Ultimately it is Allah who knows best and it is this very idea which must be our compass in this very transient, fleeting world.

    May Allah, out of His infinite bounty, bless us and give us guidance so that every decision we make is for the pure sake of His pleasure. Amin

    Jazak’Allah kher
    Waslaam
    Shoaib Abaidullah

  13. Hi Shoaib,
    I completely understand that A Muslim woman should marry only a Muslim man.
    But, I have come across many many many women who either have or had a Christian boyfriends.So, Is it wrong just to Marry that man but it’s OK to sleep with him?
    I mean, all of this is beyond me.
    And May ALLAH forgive me for marrying the person I love.
    Yes, I got married this weekend.
    And Also, Yes, Chandni & I are two different people.
    Thank You, Shoaib for your Input I really appreciate it.
    And Chandni, I would suggest you to follow your Heart.
    Do what you think is Right.
    All the best you to Chandni.

    • Dear Anchal;
      I must congratulate you on your marriage and I pray to Allah that it is not just a superficial commitment that was made by you and your husband. I say this with hope that if you truly believe Islam to be truth, that despite your decision to marry a Chrisitian, whom I also consider my brother, that you will try and educate yourself to the expectations of Allah. I pray that this fire of motivation to learn about the prefect teaching of the Quran is something that Allah ignites in you, and that you can share your views openly with your husband and insha’Allah Allah can make a Muslim out of him. I know you perhaps may not want to hear this, because you may feel that you would infringe his rights by compelling him to follow you in Islam, but I would humbly submit that you probably wouldn’t want it the other way around, right?

      I too am married and have seen something of an interesting phenomenon with marriages. Either the wife becomes like the husband or the husband like the wife. I mean this from the perspective of personality. So I will insha’Allah pray fr your success in marriage and success in building a sound afterlife by the struggles you might face in trying to learn about Islam and then sharing with your husband.

      To deal with the comment you made about the women you know who have Christian boyfriends, I would simply say that we are not just taught to not marry your daughters into Christianity. We are prohibited from having boyfriends in the first place. Not just Christian boyfriends, ANY boyfriend. This is the first commandment which is being violated by those women whom you enumerated. Secondly, if I were to tell you that a Volvo is the most secure, passenger-centric vehicle which caters to all the comforts of the driver and passengers, you might say Great! If I then proceed to hand the car over to a person who doesn’t have a license, hasn’t driven a car before, what do you think might happen. He will probably get into an accident. Now, will you blame the car with its many perfections or will you blame the driver? You would most certainly blame the driver! Well, I say this only to say that those women are the drivers, and our logic does not and should not prevent us from following Islam, with its perfect teachings, just because some around us are unable or unwilling to learn about all its beauties. Our logic should prevent us from seeing such behaviors and blaming Islam or the Quran for imperfection. Our logic should lead us to the belief that if we see misbehaviors despite someone calling themselves a Muslim, it is they who have shortcomings, not Quran.

      Again, congratulations, insha’Allah may Allah give us all hidaya (guidance) to enthusiastically perform our duties to Allah and His creation.
      Amin

      Jazak’Allah kher
      Waslaam
      Shoaib

    • @ Anchal,
      You are one Brave girl.Hats off to you.lol.
      How did you manage to take such a BIG step?

      @ Shoaib,
      Sir, what kind of world are you living in?
      Nowadays, everybody has to have a gf, whether she is Muslim, Christian, Hindu or even Sikh.
      That’s how it is.
      No one plans to fall in love but it happens nevertheless.

      • Only people who never really learned about their religion believe this. No offense but dating is not exceptable for a Muslim.

  14. Assalamwalaikum,
    Im a sunni muslim and i just happened to fall in love with a girl who is Ahmediya muslim. We both are in love. I was really curious to know a sunni muslims perspective towards ahmediya community. Though for me we are muslims first, we believe in Allah , we beleive in Mohammed (s.a.w) and we do read the same Quran. But now going through all the posts above i figured it out its way to difficult to change our thinking then to change our decisions.

    • Assalamu Aleykum brother Arif,

      I mentioned in the above post that within the confines of Islam, boyfriend/girlfriend relations are impermissible. I imagine, as Muslims you and her already know that.

      Since your last sentence was a statement, I can only make an observation or two. In fact this obstacle we all face when our beliefs are challenged and only two options exist, accept and change your truth (which I believe is the right method) or change the truth of information being presented. I label the latter as backcasting. Essentially one, having seen the truthfulness of a claim or claimant, and rejecting it simply because it doesn’t match our current model of belief.

      I struggle to keep a good balance myself, although I obviously fail at times. I have personally found that as long as I keep a certain measure of prejudice against my current beliefs, thereby continuously testing the “truth” as I understand it, every time I test this “truth”, if it holds up, it strengthens my faith, if it fails, I am again on the search for a more and more refined truth.

      This is one thing I love about my current belief system, it openly affords me the freedom and liberty to continuously test it, and in fact it encourages me, I am of course referring to the Holy Qur’an. Allah says, ” Then look again and yet again, thy sight will return unto thee weakened and made dim” (Pickthall), Chapter 67-4.

      The advice, if you were seeking any, can only be that truth stands distinct from error and right from falsehood. However, we will never know where we fall into this equation without testing our truth and not leaving our Iman in the hands of the local sheikh or maulvi. We are commanded to take charge, and seek it out, it is the only way Allah will turn His attention toward us and come nearer to us.

      Jazak’Allah kher for your observation!

      WASALAM
      Shoaib

    • Salam,
      Yeah, it is hard especially if you are Muslim.
      When it comes to religion Parents are always pushing you to the core.
      Sometimes, I feel like I am being forced to be a Muslim, which is pathetic by the way.I have a life that I want to live besides following Islam.
      But, I will never be able to explain this to my Parents.
      Brother, If you can help in any way then do write.

      • Assalamu Aleykum brothers and sisters;

        With respect to the question above about living a life besides Islam, I do not know the name of this author so I will hope they receive my message.

        I would point to something obvious and I pray that it removes ambiguity. Of course, Allahu Alim (Allah knows best). Your parents are not given the right to force you into a marriage, and for that matter, certainly not into a marriage in which you do not give your consent. Their inability to follow the commandment of Allah has resulted in you feeling this way about your religion and Iman.

        Now just imagine for a moment, what do you think would be the result if you broke a commandment and pursue a life which you feel is apart from Islam, what might then be the result. You see, this was a very basic and fundamental question which I always thought about, how much Duniya should consume my time and how much should I spare for my Creator, Allah. That is to say, how much of my time is Allah asking for? The rest I can spend on duniya(the world)?

        Allah know Best, in fact anything that we as a species “know” is from the Mercy of Allah anyway! He tells us, “I have created jinn and humankind only that they may worship Me”(verse 51:56). I do not believe Allah is saying hear that from wake till dust we should be in formal prayer, rather that whatever we should decide to invest our time in, if the choices we make are within those boundaries set by Allah, then simply performing the act which we had set out to do, would be our “active prayer”, which is the same way that the rest of less intelligent creation worships Allah. Simply by living as they have no awareness outside their very local reality.

        In fact, recently I have come across a refined understanding of creation, and I believe that we all Muslims should really think about the language we speak and how that might implicitly be saying something else. So when you say “besides Islam”, how I understand this is that Islam can be a part of our life but we do have other or better things to do. Islam, as I understand it, is a complete way of life, it gives all that man/woman needs for their development. So if I do some study and see what my Creator wants from me, and what “worship” means, I may be at an advantage for being blessed with akhira(hereafter), where personally I pray that I am blessed with, on a personal note. Essentially, the whole of our lives from birth to death should emanate from our Iman outward, and entertaining that second class life emanating from our low and base desires, we should not want to live that life anyway. It’s like the example of two men. One who loves to listen to the Quran, and the other who loves pop music. The easiest way for them to feel hell would be to flip the input what they enjoy listening. The listener or pop would be in hell if he had to spend eternity and the listener of Quran would be in hell also. This example illustrates what I was saying, “we should not want to live that life anyway”. Our tastes would change and we wouldn’t miss it.

        I apologize I touched on some other points, but felt the issue requested a deeper look than just a quick response. I also apologize if the message seemed aimed at you, I was actually talking to myself and reminding myself If I transgressed you, pls forgive me!

        Keep me in your prayers
        JAZAK’ALLAH kher
        Wasalam
        Shoaib

  15. A.O.A EveryBody ! My Simply Question is Can Sunni Marry Ahemdi girl ? Thank You =)

  16. @ Ali, The answer according to me is, YES.
    True love is beyond the boundaries of Religion,
    Caste, or Creed.
    A lover’s heart and Soul are the highest places of
    Worship indeed <3.
    ~I Quote~.

    • Salam brother/sister;

      If what you mean is that love should not discriminate, then I agree with you. If you, however, mean that love is somehow superior to religion, then I would ask, what is the true source of love? Is it my wife, my children, or my next of kin? Or, is it Allah? I will share my personal belief with you to break the ice, if there was any to break. I believe that whenever or whatever we feel to be the object of our affection and love at any given time, our souls are actually searching for the source. That is why the objects of our love and affection may, and most probably will change over time. None who are even married and love their spouses will tell you that they love their spouse the same every moment. I claim this by the way, as a married man who loves his wife and children very dearly.

      I assume you meant the former but wanted to share this thought with everyone.

      Jazak’Allahu kher
      Wasalam
      Shoaib

      • Dear Shoaib,
        I hope that you know that ” Humanity” is superior to religion.
        We are all humans first n then Chritian, Muslim, Hindu & etc.
        I must say, Your thinking is way off.
        So, would u love whoever came your way as an “object”?
        I mean, is that even possible? You don’t love according to the situation or ur needs.That’s what I think atleast.

      • @ Sidra.
        You are right sister, this Shoaib sounds like a pervert.
        God knows, how many women he has slept after getting married to that unfortunate woman (who happens to be his wife).Show some respect to ur name atleast.People like him bring our religion into dust.

  17. One should ignore ppl like Shoaib because those kinda ppl usually end up cheating on their wives n then saying I Love My Wife.hahaha.
    I pity ppl like you, man.

    Your brother in Islam.

  18. 178 Christian houses burned in Pakistan by Muslim extremists! Can’t believe shit like this is still allowed in a country that considers itself democracy.God bless the innocent people who lost their houses and other valuables.People who did that should be ashamed of themselves.

  19. @magical , what ever is happend in pakistan is happening every where in the world, millions of Muslims been killed also, u can not blame religion for all this, this is dirty politics which is played by big business mans like west and America, ( no money in peace) that’s how they run their shops,
    You , me fight, they make money india , pakistan war they sell weapons make money , religion teach us peace, its us do not follow it’s teaching,
    @ahmidies , no matter what mr shoib is saying we need to know what their founder Mirza is saying , truth is he is calling himself prophet again and again in his own written books, Mirza use to work for British and brought up by British, (divide and rule). Died in a toilet , how can he be a prophet,
    Plz innocent qadiyanies think and come to Islam, this not right, please

  20. Hi Shoaib,
    I wish u had replied to all those people who talked sh*t about you.Cuz you are letting these people win by keeping quite.which is not fair.I hope you read my message and reply.I also truly hope that you are not that sort of person.

    • Assalamu Aleykum dear anonymous;

      I apologize if my responses to the commenters don’t seem “aggressive” enough, lacking vulgarity, and character assassinations. As I mentioned in an above post, my beloved teacher, and the reason behind why I was blessed with existence, Prophet Muhammad (saw), along with my Fashioner and Creator teach me to guard my tongue so that no person, especially a Muslim is ever threatened by it.

      As such, my use of vernacular which doesn’t reflect that of my brothers and sisters (some), is not because I lack the ability or know-how, or expertise in this field, rather it is a conscious and deliberate choice that Allah has helped me to make. I am certainly grateful to H for it, and am also grateful to Him for all the variety of thoughts that are reflected in this forum. It helps me to grow and try to either find better footing to stand on, or the opportunity to change my position if a better viewpoint is presented.

      For it all, I am grateful to Allah!

      Jazakallahu Kher
      Wasalam
      Shoaib

      • Haha, I know Shoaib in real life.He is an ASS and this page is filled with nothing but his BS.My question to him is, are you even half the person that you claim to be?
        Somewhere Deep down inside, I already know the answer but just wanted to hear it from point of view.

  21. i have a prblm im muslim sunni i like fb muslim ahmdi boy but he did not like me we r gd frnds but he say m tme apni life m ni la skta me kya karo or kasa samjo usy kia koi meri help kr skta ha kia ahmdi muslim hota hn m kuch ni janti es bara me plz plz help me plzzzzz

  22. @ Muslim girl, If you really like him then why are you worried about what kind of Muslim he is?
    He is a jerk for not liking u just for the sake of something that is so stupid.Get over him.There is plenty of fish in sea.

  23. @shoiab
    As salaam alaikum
    I am not of a writer that much but still I would like to pose certain questions to you.

    1- From where did you bring that MUSLIM’S have been relentlessly waiting for 14th century hijri? That’s uncanny to me!

    2- Sorry to say but as your hoax yet bravely kept statement that ” The Majority of Muslims say that Prophet ISA(PBUH) will come as a prophet in the end times?
    Sir, please put your chronological sense into it, if he happens to come as a prophet only then how can I and you declare Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) as the seal of the prophet-hood ?
    And never in my life, I’ve heard what you claiming as the main-stream thought of Muslim theologians that the Maseh will come as a PROPHET, RATHER he’ll come as an ummati of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

    3- If Ahmad Qadayani was the true mehndi and maseh then why is there evil and unjust still prevailing in this world? He should have finished it as per the prophecy of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).

    4- The Mahndi will proclaim his office or you may say his designation in MECCA!! Ever happened will mirza gulam ahmad?

    5- Neither the mehdi nor the meseh will receive any wahee or doctrine of religion!

    6- And yes! As per the majority of ISLAMIC COMMUNITIES, AHMANDIS are not MUSLIMS! Thats a fact, so please!

    7- At last, one personal advise; don’t state childish and goofy comparisions between Ahmadis and early mujahereens, as well as the comparision between MUHAMMAD (S.A.W) and Mirza Ahmad. Trust me, it worked as a joke to me! I literally laughed it off with pity for you brother.

    • Assalamu Aleykum brother Saif,

      In the name of Allah, The Most Gracious and Most Merciful!

      I think you should MashaAllah give Allah more credit, as I found your writing ability to be more than sufficient.

      Moving onto some questions you posed. Inshaallah I will try my best to keep my answers and clarifications as concise as possible.

      1- as you will see in answer #2, you repeat what you did in question 1. It is quite possible that the Muslims of today have not been taught by their scholars about the importance of 14th hijri. This is a complaint some should level to their local imams. If we actually study the scholars in every previous century, who have their allegiance to the Imam Mahdi (as), who would be arriving, according to their calculations around 1850-1950, the head of the 14th century (roughly). In every previous century, scholars awaited the return of Masih-e-Moud (as), if they have stopped preaching this clear and reliable Hadith of the past, which has rarely been questioned by scholars of all backgrounds, and never discarded, has now been made obsolete by imams everywhere, simply due to backcasting. Where instead of changing ones views based on new and solid information, so as to better align oneself with truth, we previously accept some beliefs and as new information enters our periphery, we check the info against our biased belief, and if it contradicts us, instead of changing, we either reinterpret the new info, or we discard it as invalid. Simply because it contradicts our previous belief. But this will not do, not in the matter of jannah, Inshaallah for us all! Ameen!

      2- dear brother Saif, I think if you ask any Muslim on this board what their local scholar tells them about the advent of Messiah and Mahdi (as), you would be, not me, surprised to discover that most if not all will admit to some version of what I mentioned above. If you haven’t heard of it, let me pose a question and I humbly, yet firmly request your response to the following logic:
      A- if you and everyone on this forum agrees to the basic belief that someone will be sent by Allah, and let’s put aside their title for a moment, then the next logical question is, is it obligatory for me to believe in his claim after due satisfaction upon open hearted inquiry? If you answer yes, that it is obviously obligatory to believe in his claim, because if we agree that someone will come, and we believe that person will be chosen by Allah, then it can not be said that it is “optional” to believe in his claim. It would be a direct insult (God forbid a thousand times, God forbid) to the Divine, that He chose to send someone, guide him, as a mercy to people which was foretold by Prophet (saw), and yet it’s “optional” to believe in him. It’s nonsense.
      B- if we agree that it’s obligatory to believe in him, because a man from God can only be chosen by God, then you ARE calling him a prophet (as), you are just being shy to say it because it would violate your misguided, in my opinion, Allahu Alim, understanding of Khatamun-Nabiyyeen. But this is not acceptable form of logic and reasoning, if we are to be honest. It MUST mean that your understanding of Khatamun-Nabiyyeen must be corrected, not that we should abandon already accepted definitions of “prophet”. Which I clearly stated IS the VERY definition of the person you are describing in Mahdi (as), you are just avoiding saying it.
      C- this necessarily means that you too accept the claimant to have some form of prophethood, because you agree that SOMEONE will definitely be sent, right there you admit that that claimant must be a prophet by title because if he is to be human, and he is to be “sent”, you accept that he must be accepted, therefore he is a prophet because that is how Allah defines it in Quran! Someone guided by Allah. Also in the six articles of faith which every Muslim testifies to, belief in Allah, His angles, his PROPEHTS, His books, belief in Day of Judgment, and lastly, belief in Qadr, there is only one type of HUMAN we are required to believe in, a PROPHET (as). Therefore, if you agree based on logic presented that the one sent must be believed in, then his title must be prophet, otherwise we don’t have to believe in him. We are not taught in Islam to be obliged to believe even in Mujaddid, so Mahdi (as) is far removed and above them in status.

      3- I have already addressed above, why it seems that it is worse now than before in human history and yet when we look a bit closer, we discover that the truth of equality and love being spread globally is in fact upon us. As an example, slavery as a practice of the strong over weak, rich over poor, which has existed for millennia was completely eradicated from the civilized world only in the 1950′s. While slavery as a teaching was rendered dead by prophet Muhammad (saw), it’s practice has only ended since the 50′s. That’s a pretty remarkable proof in favor of my claim about Imam Mahdi(as). All the worldwide humanitarian cries and eventual development of thousands of organizations which are simply and purely designed to promote equality among brethren has come about only in the last 60 years. So while I agree that there are darker elements in society, you would be hard pressed to deny the proofs I have above presented.

      4/5- these questions relate to a literal interpretation so unjust to the style of language and lexicon usage of words that it technically should not even be dignified with response, and upon second thought, I won’t. Question 5 is interesting, as it is drawing attention to a claim which clearly must contradict with another one of your beliefs, namely, that the ummati will be “sent”, “guided”, so as long as you accept that some how some way, he will be “guided”, I’m ok with whether you call it wahi or not. I really don’t care to squabble over such a matter.

      6- again brother Saif, while I don’t mind answering the question again, I have previously answered it in the above posts. If you want to have a serious discussion than please read my views above and get to know my stances and then we can have a discussion on why Jama’at Ahmadiyya was “declared” non-Muslim. There is a deep history behind why it happened but it is a pointless issue for me if you can find something wrong with my arguments in defense of my claim. If you can disprove my fundamental logic by providing retorts or “better” replacements, then whether he was in Mecca or whether he received wahi or even why Ahmadis were declared non-Muslims is of no consequence. So let’s dispense with personal transgressions and try to keep focused on the message being discussed. For the both of us Inshaallah.

      8- this was a similar question to the previous, or rather comment. However I will try to address its concern. No matter how you feel about Jama’t Ahmadiyya, I encourage you to look around the Muslim world and find even 1 other community which fits even remotely upon those prophesies I discussed. You may look but you won’t find a single one that’s even close in comparison to the worldwide persecution of Jamaat Ahmadiyya. So while I appreciate your dismissive statement of “laughter” and “pity” for its reflection on you, history as well as present day profess my humble, subtle, yet clear and obvious claim.
      Secondly, I seek neither laughter nor pity from you, I seek it only from Allah. I would however request your good prayers Inshaallah for me and my family’s progression towards “truth”, no matter where she may lead.

      Lastly, I don’t think I agree with you that the points I raised are childish. I raised them with utmost regard (Allahu Alim) for sincerity and truth, etc. for you to call them childish is not hurtful to me brother, I have tried my best to convey my understanding as clear as I could have. I’m sure I fell short in many cases, but childish? I apologize if you thought that I am on this board, posting as much as I have, simply for people to see me as childish. My apologies my brother, to you and anyone else who might feel that way, but that is not my intention.

      I pray Allah guides us all and Inshaallah we are all blessed to be given entry into Jannah in presence of Allah. See you all there, Inshaallah. Ameen!

      Jazakallahu Kher brother
      Wasalam
      Shoaib

      • Can You all STOP posting this BS on this page.I’m so ashamed of you people.I’m glad there are some people like Shoaib who have some dignity left.The others are just posting to accuse each other.Learn to mind your own buss ones people.Love for all Hatred for none.
        Chanda.

      • well guys what i have concluded form above is that Mirza Sb was suffering from Shit Zo Phrenia, and was very good infact all credit to him very very good in twisting words acording to his beliefs and trying to give meaning to everything the way he wanted.

        What is reflective Prophethood?? is their any evidence of this in Hadis or by any Islamic Scholar??

        What is alamai Roya that happended to Mirza?

        Mirza even through his writing as to what i have read went to meet God and i dont even want to write here what he says further about this trip.

        There is no argument about Masjid ka mullah bro, all damn marzais are against mullahs and all scholars and have they ever looked at their mullahs infact their heir to the throne :) mirza masror or whatever his name is come one people wake up leave islam this sort of ridiculous rubish is not accpeted by any religion, maybe Mirza as of now is having sun bath in Jahanum allready :0 so chill and relax, you follow what you think is right and we muslims follow what we think is right, as for me i belive in the following

        Allah is one and sajda is only to him, Muhammad Mustafa (SAW) is the last prophet of GOD and there is no prophet to come after him. May Allah bless muslims worldover and minimise their sorrows and give them the strehgth to defend Muhammad (SAW) beliefs and religion from Fitnas like Hassan Bin Sabah and Mirza of Qadian.

  24. i must salute u shoaib keep up the good work , just because of ur efforts and your passion and ur manner i m impressed the way way you answered all , you are a true Ahmadi , thats why you never used abusive language towards anyone your clarified yourself very clear with the solid points with strong evidences , i researched about Ahmadiyyat and now i am proudly announcing that I M AN AHMADI TOO , thanks a lot brother , keep up the good work , may ALLAH bless you and your family and all AHMADI’S and all humanity .

    LOVE FOR ALL HATRED FOR NONE ,
    thanks shoaib once again

  25. brother shoaib
    I am a muslim and donor agree with ur believe but ur mother has done a good job in your brought up, ur patience and ur attitude need much appreciation
    may Allah blessing you and guide us all towards the right path.

  26. I am a Christian who has the following beliefs;
    1. Only one God (Almighty God / Allah )
    2. Jesus Christ is not God (but the beloved SON / Prophet ) of God.
    3. I also believe in the CRUCIFIXION and the RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ (which i got to know Muslims totally disagree).
    5. The coming of the holy spirit (which I sometimes think to be Prophet Mohammed.: Now the Ahmadiyya Muslims are not saying, “Jesus Christ did not die, but lived & died a natural death PBUH::)
    6. Today as i was going through the previously posted messages on the page, i got to know that the Ahmadiyya group believe that Jesus Christ did not die on the cross but rather leaved & died a natural death.
    7. And reading more about the Islamic faith, i got to know that there are many sects , beliefs & conflits among the Muslims i even wanted to join (which I never knew before).

    SO WHAT IS IT NOW…….different sects in the Christian religion & same in the Islamic religion too…….

    They are all trying to convince poor innocent people who were not there when these events where taking place but just tries to read and make a decision of which of these numerous sects to join.

    these effort which needs applause then becomes a bad idea and the person later becoming the enemy of the numerous sects left.

    where were all of you when these historical events were taking place.
    How sure is each one of you that his/her religion is the true path.

    why should i belong to one of these numerous sects and become your enemy.

    has any one of you people ever read the Bible and tried to really understand the content of it.???

    why should people kill people because of religion instead of convincing them to be part of them (and later be Judged ).

    what physical evidence of an award of HEAVEN does each of you have, to convince me to be a follower.

    Humanity is sick & tied of conflicts.
    God save us all

    • Disregard the first message
      (amended in the second )
      i would like if you read the second message for minimal errors.
      Thanks

  27. I am a Christian who has the following
    beliefs;
    1. Only one God (Almighty God /
    Allah )
    2. Jesus Christ is not God (but the
    beloved SON / Prophet ) of God.
    3. I also believe in the CRUCIFIXION
    and the RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ
    (which i got to know Muslims totally
    disagree).
    5. The coming of the holy spirit (which
    I sometimes think to be Prophet
    Mohammed , PBUH)
    6. Today as i was going through the
    previously posted messages on the
    page, i got to know that the
    Ahmadiyya group believe that Jesus
    Christ did not die on the cross but
    rather leaved his live & died a natural death (do they have any records on him after the so called “attempted crucifixion ? “.
    7. And reading more about the Islamic
    faith, i got to know that there are
    many sects , beliefs & conflits among
    the Muslims i even wanted to join
    (which I never knew before).
    SO WHAT IS IT NOW…….different sects
    in the Christian religion & same in the
    Islamic religion too…….
    They are all trying to convince poor
    innocent people who were not there
    when these events where taking place
    but just tries to read and make a
    decision of which of these numerous
    sects to join.
    these effort which needs applause
    then becomes a bad idea and the
    person later becoming the enemy of
    the numerous sects left.
    where were all of you when these
    historical events were taking place.
    How sure is each one of you that his/
    her religion is the true path.
    why should i belong to one of these
    numerous sects and become your
    enemy.
    has any one of you people ever read
    the Bible and tried to really
    understand the content of it.???
    why should people kill people because
    of religion instead of convincing them
    to be part of them (and later be
    Judged ).
    what physical evidence of an award of
    HEAVEN does each of you have, to
    convince me to be a follower.
    Humanity is sick & tied of conflicts.
    God save us all

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