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  1. james
    April 24, 2013

    i need to know what were the economical and social differences of the slaves and union states. idk what they are

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    • george
      April 24, 2013

      the union staes never had slaves so the slaves in the south had ran from the owners and went towards the union staes and they they would find special homes were they could rest and to eat. but i dont know about the

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      • Joshua McMeekan
        December 20, 2013

        The Union did have slaves, though not many and only on the boarder states. later on in the war (1863) the emancipation proclamation was signed, banning all Slavery throughout both the north and the south. The south even called for Britain’s help. Britain did not get involved. The Union did not prosper much from having slaves, that’s not too say they didn’t prosper.

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      • Lavahn moss
        February 11, 2020

        The north had many slaves but only illegal in the south. Northerners treated blacks worse than the south. Eli Whitney a yankee invented cotton gin which created a need for more slaves. The north wasn’t squeaky clean.

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      • Charlie Horse.
        July 5, 2020

        While it’s indisputable that slavery existed through out the early north and southern states The Northern states began abolishing slavery as early as 1777. Especially along the east coast and new England area.
        Also although there definitely black slaves in the north Many earlier slaves where Irish.
        Not indentured servants either. Both King William the III and King George the 1st had emptied Jails of tens of thousands of Irish or would capture and sell them into slavery.
        Records show right about 1 million Irish slaves where sold. Because they where less expensive.
        Although the article says that slaves where generally sold to southern states there are also records showing that often cases states would compensate the former owners and buy their freedom. There where many free blacks in the northern states.
        As far as how people where treated.
        Many people where very belligerent back then. They treated each other very harshly. I can not say there wasn’t animosity. But I would believe it was shared fairly equally.
        There where also a lot of good people back then too. The Quakers for instance, their religion forbade slavery they where a major proponent of the underground railroad smuggling southern slaves to Canada.
        Even though slavery had been abolished up here by that time laws where such that a captured slave still in the states had to be returned. But that ended at the Canadian boarder.
        I hope this was helpful.
        Maybe it would be helpful to say that 62,000 people sacrificed their lives and many more sacrificed limbs, blood, homes, etc.. abolishing this horrendous activity that deprived so many of a future.
        As someone of mixed Native American decent I fully understand your angst. As I understand the angst of many peoples. But we must not allow the past to rule our future.
        Hate for something that happened so long ago is wrong.
        Up until the mid 70’s a Native American woman living on a reservation who had two children was given the option to leave the reservation or be sterilized.
        Similarly in Australia until the mid 70’s children of mixed aboriginal and white parents where removed from their homes and segregation was being enforced over most of the nation.
        Rabbit proof fence is an excellent movie depicting this.
        Even today there are reports of anywhere between 750K and 1.5 million existing slaves throughout Africa.
        Through out the Middle east especially Syria there are still open slave markets where men women and children of many races are sold daily primarily to and from Muslim slave traders or purchasers.
        You see. There are far larger battles to wage. There are people out there that need everyone’s help far more than we do.
        I know that progress is slow. I know it’s frustrating. But tearing apart the only nation on earth that is trying to fix these problems does not help.
        Sometimes we need to recognize the necessity of the unpleasant to achieve an end result.
        I do not see the democratic party doing you any favors if that’s who you are with.
        Historically the republican party has come through for you repeatedly while the democrats have done everything they can to hold you back and only pay you lip service. There is not one single land mark bill that democrats have sponsored or passed in your favor. Some have been passed solely by republican vote.
        Why is it that the Black people have had representation since 1870 but as republicans until the first black democrat senator in 1963?
        We must understand the past to move forward but we can not live there in our hearts.

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    • aj
      August 16, 2016

      sc

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      • ya yeet
        February 18, 2019

        follow me @vsaucymemes on instagram

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      • akekeke
        November 13, 2020

        no

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  2. m
    September 4, 2016

    The main post is a good read. George’s comment prompted my response here, but I will also address a few other issues with the main post.

    The people of the northern states hold no moral high ground on slavery or race relations. Most of the slaves came to the states through northern ports on northern ships. Most of the northern states had slaves. Some northern states completely abolished slavery between 1777 and the start of the war in 1861, but not all of them. Some of the laws abolishing slavery were only partial. As states abolished slavery, the slaves were often sold to slave states instead of being set free. Contrary to popular belief, the northern states did not fight a war to free the slaves. Some northern states still had slaves, even after the war in 1865.

    i.e. Slaves in New Jersey were freed in 1865, by the Thirteenth Amendment. – Sources: wikipedia & slavenorth.com

    The northern states did not welcome fugitive slaves, nor free people of color. The underground railroad ran through both the southern and the northern states to Canada. People in both the south and the north whom assisted or “gave comfort” to those fugitive slaves took great risk in doing so.

    Slavery was an institution the states inherited from the British. All of the states eventually abolished the institution of slavery.

    Without the tax revenue from southern ports, or the food and material supplies from the southern states, the northern states would have starved and gone bankrupt. Call it preserving the union, but control of the money and materials supplied by the southern states was what the northern states were focused on. To this day the federal government controls this, in the best interest of the northern states.

    Continued education isn’t necessarily an advantage, particularly when the main purpose isn’t to educate, but is more importantly used to separate classes of the citizenry and to indoctrinate federalist or northern myths of grandeur.

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  3. Valeria Correa
    March 23, 2019

    who was right about slavery the north or the south during the civil war?

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