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  1. Mary
    August 12, 2013

    Where did you get this information? I am part of a byzantine catholic church and we do and say the same as roman catholic.

    Everything you said is wrong.

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    • Margot Mcloud
      September 26, 2014

      I agree with Mary and Don! Where you got the heresies! From when the Roman catholic Latin priests never changing anything, they fallow the Catholic roots and they are holy priests I know. The tridentine priests are very strict not like the Novus Ordo many priests.
      You writing:The Roman Catholic God is very different from the harsh and exacting God of the Old Testament.
      Question: from where you pulled that heresies? Very idiotic, delicate saying.

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      • Shelby Saju
        January 10, 2018

        These were during the ancient Byzantine empire?? The religion probably developed over time due to the exposure of different cultures over time. I know for a fact this is right.

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      • Barry Saunders
        July 11, 2018

        Novo Ordo is protestant. It was instituted at the Vatican by protestant freemasons in order to disassemble the Catholic Church. My name is Barry Saunders and my e mail in Canada is barrysaunders721@gmail.com

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      • Marg Lam
        January 5, 2019

        I do agree that the novus ordo words that were in the consecration of the Blessed Sacrament are not valid as were in the tridentine mass. The novus ordo really ripped out the idea of the sacrifice of Christ’s Passion and made it simply as a memorial last supper, but has radically changed the former mass. Sad for any discerning Catholic.balloon “masses”, clowns, happy talk and jokes, irreverence, ughh. Besides the novus ordo itself, no.

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    • Tom Miller
      December 2, 2016

      What can you tell me about the Byzantine rite of the Catholic Church?

      This is an accurate answer to the original question:

      Full Question
      What can you tell me about the so-called Byzantine rite of the Catholic Church? Are they in union with the pope? I have my doubts after hearing that their infants receive a sacrament called “Chrismation.”

      Answer

      The Byzantine rite is one of several Eastern rites recognized by and in full communion with the Bishop of Rome. Its origin can be traced to the ancient city of Byzantium (modern-day Istanbul), renamed Constantinople when the emperor Constantine relocated his capital city there from Rome in A.D. 330.

      Although in full communion with the Church in the West, the Byzantine rite retains distinctive features. Byzantine churches are beautifully adorned with icons, and the sanctuary is separated from the congregation by an iconostasis, a screen covered with icons. Leavened bread is used for the consecration of the body of Christ in the liturgy (not called the “Mass” in Eastern rites), which is either the liturgy of St. John Chrysostom or that of St. Basil the Great. Communion is received under both kinds and administered by the priest from a spoon.

      Byzantine Catholics operate under a different code of canon law. They also celebrate a somewhat different liturgical year with some unique feasts and saints. In addition to Lenten fasting prior to Easter, they also fast before Christmas, the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul, and the Assumption.

      Chrismation is simply another term for the sacrament we know as Confirmation. Following ancient custom, it is administered in the East to infants at the time of their baptism, along with the Eucharist.

      Latin-rite Catholics are often surprised when attending a Byzantine liturgy (which you are free to do at any time and which does fulfill your obligation to attend Mass) to find more prayers for the pope than in the Latin liturgy.

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    • Barry saunders
      February 12, 2018

      Byzatine is not Catholic

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      • Marg Lam
        January 5, 2019

        The Byzantine rite is the eastern rite is certainly in full communion with the roman Catholic Church. You need to do more research my friend

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      • Rosemary Jackson
        December 12, 2020

        Thank you for discussing these things. I am an unhappy Roman Catholic. I no longer believe in the i falibility of the Pope. I would like to know more about the Eastern Catholic Church; the Bysentine Catholic Church?

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      • Mary Damen
        February 27, 2022

        I am Roman Catholic and went to a Byzantine Catholic High School in the 60’s.
        I loved their Liturgy and how the mass was chanted!
        Communion was a cube of bread soaked in wine dropped into your mouth on small spoon!
        Both church’s are under the Pope, just like some Ukraine Catholic Churches. The Greeks are Orthodox and so are some Ukraine Churches.
        They have a Bishop in Middle East as their Pope!
        We all believe in one God and the BVM and the Saints!
        We just come from different cultures and practice our religion a little different!
        When we die their is only one Heaven for all human kind!
        Let us pray for Peace on Earth!❤️

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      • Marg Lam
        January 5, 2019

        The Byzantine rite is the eastern rite is certainly in full communion with the roman Catholic Church. You need to do more research my friend. I am referring to the EASTERN RITE, OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, ALSO KNOWN AS THE EASTERN RITE

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      • Mary J Bell
        July 28, 2020

        You are extremely ignorant the Byzantine Catholic Church is directly under the Pope and believes everything the Roman Catholics believe

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    • Sari
      September 26, 2020

      Why is this completely wrong information still here after at least six years? I guess the comments are not read. I would like to see factual information on the Byzantines and other Eastern Catholic rites.

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    • Julie
      November 5, 2020

      Hi I can’t find a comment bar . So just want to jump on with you all . I can’t believe this was published with so much misinformation about the Church. Especially since, though distinct emphases, the Roman and Byzantine are One!

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  2. Don
    January 13, 2014

    I agree with Mary. This article gives entirely wrong information.

    It has Hellenistic traditions and incorporations, unlike the Roman Catholic Church which is strictly Christian—THIS IS NONSENSE! BYZANTINE CATHOLICS ARE STRICTLY CHRISTIAN ALSO.

    Roman Catholic teachings propound that Christ gave Himself up on the Cross to redeem the first betrayal of Adam; Byzantine belief has it that Christ did it for ransoming the Devil —RIDICULOUS COMMENT!

    Byzantine religion is more liberal than Roman Catholicism
    IN WHAT POSSIBLE WAY? NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER.

    Byzantine ecclesiastical thought considers all clergymen as equals, which is not the case in Roman Catholicism which vests the bishopric responsibilities of the Catholic Church on the Pope —BALDERDASH! BYZANTINE CATHOLICS HOLD THE ROMAN PONTIFF AS AS THE SUPREME AUTHORITY AND HEAD OF THE CHURCH.

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    Papal and Episcopal Documents (SEARCH THEM FOR YOURSELF)

    Orientale Lumen The Light of the East- John Paul II

    Church Venerates Fathers of East and West – John Paul II

    Decree on the Catholic Churches of the Eastern Rite – Orientalium Ecclesiarum Promulgated by His Holiness, Pope Paul VI on November 21, 1964

    Eastern theology has enriched the whole Church -Pope John Paul II

    Joint Patriarchal Statement – Assyrian Church of the East and Chaldean Catholic Church

    Apostolic Letter of Pope John Paul II on the 350th Anniversary of the Union of Uzhorod

    Unity in Diversity Archbishop Theodore E. McCarrick – From The Catholic Advocate, 17 August 1988

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  3. Fr. Joseph Marquis
    May 4, 2015

    With all due respect, you simply don’t know what you’re talking about. Would recommend that you follow up with Don’s reading list for starters.

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  4. Jeanne
    January 7, 2016

    From Wikipedia.org

    Eastern Catholic Churches
    The Eastern Catholic Churches are 23 self-governing particular churches in full communion with the Pope. Together with the Latin Church, also known as the Western Church, they make up the Catholic Church. Liturgies of the 23 Eastern Catholic churches include the Byzantine, Alexandrian, Armenian, East Syrian, and West Syrian Rites, traditions that are shared with other Eastern Christian churches with which they were once associated, such as the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches. Although some theological issues divide them from other Eastern churches, they admit members of the latter churches to the Eucharist and the other sacraments, as governed by canon law.
    en.wikipedia.org · Text under CC-BY-SA license

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  5. LO
    February 12, 2016

    This is article is completely wrong! Please stop spreading lies about both sides of our Catholism! Having grown up Byzantize Catolic, Married a Roman Catholic. Raised my kids both Roman Catholic and now Byzantine Catholic. I can say from almost half a century of experience that this article represents both sides of Catholism very poorly. It does not do them justice, there are so many things wrong I don’t even know where to begin to correct it. All I can say is for those who are interested in both of these sides of Catholism, go visit a Mass in the Roman Catholic Church and then go visit a Liturgy in a Byzantine Catholic Church and talk to a priest or a deacon when you visit each for questions you might have and then you will start to get the answers you need. Just a side note though, the Byzantine Catholic side has 23 rites so when you go to a Byzantine church ask them which rite they are. Each rite comes from a different culture or country of origin. So each Byzantine Liturgy might be slightly different because of the rite of the church as well, just to give you a tip. By the way, I will pray for the author of this article that they will research and find the right info on this topic and correct the wrong information in this article.
    Good Luck to all of you! And God Bless you all!! 🙂

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  6. Peter Groot
    September 13, 2016

    This article has confused Byzantine with Orthodox. Byzantine Catholics (and other Eastern Catholics) are free to worship with Roman Catholics. Eastern Orthodox (Greek, Russian, Serbian, etc.) do not welcome Catholics, in spite of their official name Orthodox Catholic.

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    • Jonnie
      February 11, 2017

      I believe we can only get to the Father through a relationship with Jesus who died to save us. Why argue Byzantine, Orthodox or Catholic and Latin? Seems a waste of time, of which we have very little left before Jesus returns for us. He is interested in souls, not language or sect name.

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  7. t petrisko
    February 11, 2017

    Wrong information included. Byzantine Catholics can receive communion in Roman Catholic Churches and vice-versa. I wish the information in the aRTICLE COULD BE CORRECTED

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  8. Ingrid Layton
    April 26, 2017

    I have been researching my father according to what documents I have, was born 22nd May 1925 in Czepiele p Brody Ukraine Greek Catholic.
    My mother wasa Polish Roman Catholic and I was raised the same in Australia.
    Trying to understand the difference and now somewhat more confused.
    How does the word ‘Greek’ come into Catholic please?

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  9. Sal Falco
    May 4, 2017

    Did the split between eastern and western churches lead to Constantinople full to the Ottoman Empire? Is that why we have Istanbul today.

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    • elizabeth grill
      October 24, 2021

      No. The fall of the Roman Empire is complicated. I recommend Fall of Civilizations podcasts for a detailed 2 part history lesson.

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  10. Joe
    July 28, 2017

    Poorly written and organized (or copied and pasted) and full of errors about the history and nature of Eastern and Western Catholic churches (although there are some accuracies in comparisons). First, the writer gets confused between Eastern Orthodoxy and Byzantine Catholicism. Byzantine Catholics and Roman Catholics are in full communion and may receive the Eucharist in either church (even the Orthodox are welcome to communicate in the Catholic church although the Orthodox have stricter rules forbidding this). Second, the article does not clearly distinguish between unchangeable Sacred Tradition and modifiable church customs and language. The differences between East and West (Catholics and even the Orthodox in most matters) falls under the latter kind of tradition. For example, even when an Orthodox sates that they do not accept the dogmas of the Immaculate Conception or Purgatory, this has more to do with semantics and emphasis rather than substantial disagreement. Third, there are a variety of non-Catholic autonomous and autocephalous Eastern communions, not just the Byzantine: the Eastern Orthodox (primarily Byzantine origin), the Oriental Orthodox (primarily Antiochene, Armenian, and Alexandrian traditions), and the Assyrian Church of the East (similar to the Chaldeans). These non-Catholic sister churches have valid apostolic succession and sacraments and each has an equivalent hierarchy in full communion with Rome. Some Catholics, such as the Maronites, do not have an Orthodox counterpart because they never split from the West. Eastern Catholics are autonomous (self governing in terms of practical and spiritual matters) but not autocephalous (they look to Rome for final dogmatic approval although the local Patriarchs enjoy a high degree of privileged authority). Eastern Catholic and Orthodox churches exist because they were planted by the apostles who carried the Gospel via oral and liturgical Tradition throughout the world even before half the apostles wrote new scriptures. One imperfect analogy, since the church is more than simply a federation, is to see the different families of Catholic Churches as different states within one union of government. Californians, New Yorkers, and Tennesseans might have very different cultures but all are American. Byzantines, Maronites, Melkites, Coptics, etc. are all Catholic if in union with the Holy See.

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  11. Jim Cox
    May 16, 2018

    Well Jesus will have a problem when He returns. Trying to choose who is right. I believe that Christians should celebrate that we all believe in Jesus Christ as lord and thank Him that we can celebrate Him in different places because of our not so important differences. Jesus dealt with simple illiterate people and didn’t expect to squabble over trivia.

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    • Gerri
      December 17, 2018

      Wow I’m more confused than ever. I was raised going to both the Roman Catholic (mothers side) and the Greek Catholic/Byzantine (fathers side) Now I know nothing after reading all of the comments.

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    • Marg Lam
      January 5, 2019

      OUR BLESSED LORD JESUS CHRIST Won’t have any problems at all. He is God.

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    • Rosemary Jackson
      December 12, 2020

      I am sorry for the typos. I misspelled Byzantine. This keyboard is split down the middle.

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  12. Marg Lam
    January 5, 2019

    Absolutely correct. I am now going to go to the eastern rite Byzantine rite, which is in full communion with the roman Catholic Church. Both can go to eachothers liturgy. I have been roman Catholic all my life and am now going to the ea

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  13. Mary D
    January 7, 2019

    My mother joined a Byzantine Catholic church, and I am a Roman Catholic. Despite minor theological differences, we attended each other’s churches and enjoyed discussing how they differed.

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  14. CTeran
    July 13, 2019

    This information is incorrect. I believe you are mixing the Byzantine church with the Orthodox Church. The Byzantine Church is in full communion with the Roman Catholic Church.
    Please update your information.

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  15. Mary
    August 27, 2019

    As others have said, this information is incorrect. It’s hard enough to get Roman Catholics to believe we are also Catholics WITHOUT this page perpetuating false information. Roman Catholics and Byzantine Catholics are encouraged to get to know each other and yes, may receive communion at each others’ churches with no complications.

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  16. Freidrix Karl Marx
    April 25, 2020

    The peace be with you all, clarification my only concern is, the number 10 on unity of the church’s , it should be headed by Jesus Christ , we as Catholic know that Jesus Crist our lord is the founder(head) of Roman Catholic church we participate in Catholic church because of Jesus Christ our savior with the help of pope at Catholic priest

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  17. elizabeth grill
    October 24, 2021

    I think there is a difference between comparing Roman Catholic religion and Orthodox Greek or Byzantine Christianity of today and a historical comparison. You all have to remember that you live in the 21st century and what exists today and what was 1500 years ago are vastly different. These religions have never existed apart from the politics of men, despite the many reductionist attempts to cast a hunky dory light on their differences by the comment section in an attempt to present a united front as Christians.

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