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  1. marian c
    June 29, 2010

    the article states that “both … have medical mental disorders that can be treated or alleviated through therapy and medication once properly diagnosed”. this is contrary to most psychotherapeutic experience. whom or what are you citing here?
    marian c

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    • Lady around the Corner
      November 7, 2014

      To Marian c
      We don’t have to cite…*closes door*

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  2. T J Marcott
    May 5, 2012

    There are a few mistakes in your article.
    Sociopaths are obsessive and organized, while Psychopaths are disorganized.
    Psychopathy is not recognized as an actual mental disorder, while Sociopathy is.

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    • Gelgamark
      March 11, 2013

      Good lord you’re misinformed. Psycho and sociopaths are the same thing. Read some peer reviewed studies if you even know what they are.

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      • S. Casey
        July 27, 2013

        @Gelgamark: Actually, I think Marcott is right. Can you please post links to the articles you are referring to? Because the studies I’ve read seem to more or less support Marcott’s statement – at least in regard to the the organization description.

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      • Kay
        August 5, 2014

        This whole article is a mess. Where on earth did you drum up this information from?

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      • Mischievous Deutsche Students
        November 7, 2014

        Obviously this author must be a sociopath…*closes door*

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    • Gabriel
      February 9, 2016

      Well I think that’s a matter of motive. Is is emotional? In which case disorganized for a psychopath due to sloppyness, attachment to the victim, and trophies taking. Then again it could be for an ego boost or for the thrill of targeting a group or type of people. In which case disorganized for a sociopath by possible rape, recklessness, and obvious fatuation with victims.

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  3. Zach Luschen
    July 1, 2012

    I find that most of the enlisted differences between a psychopath and sociopath is accurate..except for two of the enlisted outward behavior distinctions of the sociopath is “extremely”disorganized, leaving behind a large trail of clues, and being easily identified and apprehended. For instance, serial killer Ted Bundy fits under the outward behavior-based profile of a sociopath, but he was not exactly extremely disorganized and he hadn’t quite left behind a large trail of clues that revealed his identity and apprehension. But to the exact, he was disorganized only to some degree. He was mostly organized, though his organized capacities had not reached to the level of being almost obsessive.

    Plus I want to add, that a sociopath has an abnormal level of temperament. On the other hand, the psychopath has a normal level of temperament. For example, a sociopathic killer would only kill in a sense of anger and resentment. Therefore, the crime scene will indicate that the offender carried out his or her acts of violence in a sense of rage. And a psychopathic killer would kill in a sense of vindictiveness. A violent psychopath will keeping a cool head and would only express their anger and resentment while being alone. Then after releasing the emotion of anger and vindictiveness, the psychopath will in the next step start to think and come up with a calculating, methodical, and meticulous plan of how and when to inflict harm upon their victim. While committing the murder, the psychopath is consistently cool headed. Because of the fact his or her plan is going along as wanted and expected to the outcomes of it in either getting revenge or to get rid of the person who is in the way from getting what he/she wants.

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  4. Zach Luschen
    July 1, 2012

    I apologize for my spelling grammar mistakes in my previous reply above. I hope I didn’t confuse anyone reading it. I was a bit excited to share what I have found in research on this subject.

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    • Grammer Nazis
      November 7, 2014

      Don’t say, “I was a bit excited to share what I have found in research on this subject.” you dirty Plebeian. The correct tense is, “I was a bit excited to share what I had found in researching this subject.” Do you even english? Holy crap, buddy, someone got a 1200 on their SATs.

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      • Lucinda Maelerd
        June 5, 2016

        Who the hell are you to judge? She said her English wasn’t perfect. Shut up. Not only is she educated but she’s multi lingual. You didn’t invent the language so calm the fuck down.

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      • Kasida
        October 9, 2016

        The real question is why are you all up so damn early?

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    • lina
      December 27, 2015

      No, it’s ok , I actually found it really useful and informative
      thank you

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  5. Zach Luschen
    July 1, 2012

    I must also add in correcting myself, the example I used to back up my point is not exactly accurate on what I had mentioned on Ted Bundy’s outward behavior. The only accurate facts to this example in support of my point I’m trying to make is that Bundy, who fits mostly under the enlisted behaviors of the sociopath was not extremely disorganized in his acts of amoral and antisocial behavior, most of his outbursts of violence were a bit erratic but had been carefully planned before he acted it out, and also he left behind only some clues…not a lot of them. Several or more individuals who saw Ted Bundy did get a good look to provide a sketch of his face but the problem is he was also a chameleon. He changed his appearance at least a dozen times while he was evading law enforcement.

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  6. Joe
    July 14, 2012

    When one tries to define something one tends to leave out the fact the human beings, even sociopaths and psychopaths, can’t be neatly fitted into molds! The author of this article using the standard webster’s definition of sociopaths and psychopaths but fails to take into considerations various levels of each. Strictly speaking the author is mostly right but sociopaths can by organized and psyhcopaths can be disorganized. Human beings usually learn from their mistakes and they adjust accordingly if they get away with it. Most sociopaths and psychopaths are caught early in their morbid career the ones who are dangerous are the ones who get away or escape close calls. It’s those folks, who learn from their mistakes, that go on to be the most prolific and dangerous serial killers. This applies to both sociopaths and pyschopaths in my opinion. Law Enforcement should always keep an open mind and never fully trust a profile. You can use it as a tool but never place an inordinate amount of faith in it. Good Day, Joe.

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  7. Joe
    July 14, 2012

    sorry about the spelling and run-0n sentences. They are really typos but I hope you get what I ‘m meaning. Good Day.

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  8. Pat T.
    December 18, 2012

    Borderline personality disorder is one of those diagnoses that can at times mask ASPD. Psychopathy cannot be treated with medications. Antisocial Personality Disorder cannot be treated with medications. Not all sociopaths or psychopaths are killers, many walk among us and are in high-ranking corporate positions. They are the corporate bullies whose acts cause millions or more in employee turnover, sickness, etc. Who are so good at the game of manipulation that they make sure they are covered in case you decide to go against them. With very little evidence or little more than their word, they can convince a panel of people that it is YOU who is the miscreant. You can have loads of evidence, witnesses, etc. but to no avail. Once these people get into positions of power, your best bet is to quietly look for another job or if that’s not possible, then try to not do anything to be noticed. Even mentioning that they are a sociopath or psychopath will make YOU look like the “crazy” one. They drive you crazy and then use your own inability to “deal” with the impossible against you. I work with and have unfortunate personal dealings with these people. It is not pleasant.

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    • JJ
      November 12, 2018

      Good point… this is a discussion we have often. Did the electoral college support a psychopath or sociopath, or can one be both?
      It was a manipulative plan in the making for years… so definitely planned. No compassion for others. Idk. But yes, they can manipulate themselves to positions of power. ~ JJ

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  9. CA.Edmunds
    February 19, 2013

    I am, unfortunately, finding out that I am not only the mother but also one of the victims of one or the other above mentioned individuals. I thought @ first my oldest daughter had lost her mind when she informed me of some of her sister’s social ( illegal ) indiscretions. Needless to say the turmoil created by my youngest child and her collaboraters is still being dealt with through the legal system. If I hadn’t seen the evidence for myself I still would not believe it. Unfortunately this also involves my grandchilren in state custody & on & on. It’s true that you cannot stick all humans in the same mold. In fact, outside of an assembly line , I don’t think there’s much of anything, @ least organically speaking, that will fit in one mold. God bless & thanks, CAE,RN

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  10. Cruddup
    October 15, 2013

    Psychopaths and sociopaths can’t be treated with medicine or counseling. The drugs might make them subdued for a while, but the psychopathy never goes away. Psychopaths can usually con therapists into believing that the treatments are wortking, but the psychopath merely uses this to his benefit. Obama is a good example of a psychopath, especially because of his lack of empathy, conscience, remorse, and his constant pathological lying. Very dangerous for the country.

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    • Jack
      February 18, 2018

      Aaaannd you were doing fine until you started in on Obama. You completely destroyed any sense of validity to your opinions by revealing your ido conservative political views, nine of which are backed up by ANY fact. Nice going idi. Your boy Trump is doing great so far. Worst approval rating in history at this point of his presidency. Lol .

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  11. Glenda
    December 27, 2014

    The information you provided is very helpful. I have a male neighbor who concerns me very much, he is 66 retired was successful and is very intelligent. I am a married female also retired. Before my husband retired last year, I had contact the police. He would watch for me at times to go the mail box . He would come out of his house and approach me with obvious erection. (Kept clothes on) I would pretend I did not notice. Then when I would drive into my garage he would run over and seemed to enjoy frightening me by surprising me. I ignored this also. He would show up a lot of places I would go. Not necessarily approach me but again wanted me to know he was there. I realized there was a problem and would try to make a special effort to totally ignore him. That made him worse , one day he was blocking my path when I drive into garage. Made an execuse to borrow something. I felt trapped physically so I oblidged not wanting to upset him. Asking him to wait outside . When I retured he had entered my kitchen , retrieved a butcher knife from the counter and was rubbing the blade of the knife with his fingers. I stayed calm, not wanting to upset him, made small talk while handing him the bathroom scales he asked to borrow . He put the knife back where he got it from ever so slow and calm, my heart was beating so fast I was so afraid. He left. He made a comment he will return the scales in a few minutes. I told him I was leaving for an appointment and please leave it outside. I left the house locking the car doors before I backed out of my garage. I did not return until my husband was home. Very next day got into my car locked the doors backed out of garage to leave for the day to get away from him. He was waiting for me and blocked my car, pretending he had not noticed me backing into the street. He would not let me go forward or backwards I was completely trapped. I blew the horn which seemed like for ever mon stop. Trying to get the attention of a neighbor or anyone. They all work who live on my block . I picked up my cell phone to dial 911 for help. He saw this and let me leave but followed me for awhile. I drove straight to the police department which was near by. A officer took my statement and went to his house and gave him a verbal restraining order . The officer told me he will tell him to stay off my property and not to acknowledge me in public places or he will be arrested. He started showing up in public places saying “hi” I dud not respond. Contacted the officer again and he advised me to go to a certain location and he would be there to observe. The neighbor drive into the parking lot saw the officer and had not since bothered me. I had a hard time keeping my husband calm and not approaching the man. Do you think he is a socialpath ? He had left me alone the lady couple of months, especially since my husband had retired . I am fearful of him. Please advise.

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    • Anon
      November 23, 2015

      OMG, Glenda. I know your post is old but I had to respond. I hope you and your husband are safe and that this sicko is now in prison!!

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  12. Gabriel
    February 9, 2016

    I honestly think that a psychopath wants to kill people but merely selectively. The difference is a sociopath kills people who go against him or simply to help his sadistic ego. A psychopath on the other hand believes in society, functionality, order, and when a little prick genuinely deserves to die. A psychopath may have a hard time recognizing that someone doesn’t deserve to die, or that killing is wrong. A sociopath knows its wrong, but goes for the kill anyhow to support whatever he gets out of it. Another thing you need to consider is a psychopath may enjoy targeting people for character traits that make them bad, while a sociopath targets whatever gives them a rush or a morale boost

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